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Hong Kong Hong Kong Shanghai Fantasy Tael (Fakes are possible)  1867
Hong Kong Hong Kong Shanghai Fantasy Tael (Fakes are possible) 1867

Museum Victoria has a good article on this super-high value pattern coin from Hong Kong. The original coins, now worth tens of thousands of US dollars, were produced at the Hong Kong mint using British dies. This is a 'pattern' experimental coin and it never entered circulation.

Well, the problem is that collectors love exotic coins, and coins with 'Hong Kong' and 'Shanghai' conjure up all sorts of intrigue. Needless to say, enterprising manufacturers started producing reproductions of the genuine coin and then sold them to collectors. This is usually called the crime of counterfeiting, but, since the piece never circulated, a more polite term is used -- these reproductions are 'fantasy coins' and they are legal to own.

The exquisite fantasy coin in our main picture comes from Ponterio & Associates (now Stack's Bowers) and is a high-quality reproduction. It sold for $2000 in a 2010 auction. This is a very high price and it is surprising that a fake coin sold for this much. But ... collectors love exotic coins.

However, the quality of the reproduction makes all the difference. A low-quality coin will sell for a few US dollars, not thousands of US dollars.

The evaluation of this coin depends on the quality of the reproduction:

High quality: $200 to $2000
Low quality: $5 to $50

Use the graphic below to estimate the value of your specific piece.


CoinQuest thanks Ponterio & Associated for use of their coin image.

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Coin: 16676 , Genre: Colonizers and Colonies
Requested by: FJ, Wed, 12-Mar-2014 15:21:00 GMT
Answered by: Chris, Wed, 12-Mar-2014 17:21:12 GMT
Reviewed by Chris - Appraisal OK, Tue, 01-Mar-2016 15:38:04 GMT
Requester description: 1867 1867 Shangai Hong Kong One Tael
Tags: hong kong shanghai fantasy tael fakes counterfeit replica forger counterfet fake counterfiet reproductions repro reproduction counterfeits replicas forgery shangai one ones dragon circle shield honi soit mal pense dragons circled encircle crrcle cirle circlet ring circles circlr circal citcle encircled ringed circumscibed cirlce circel encircles encircling rings circling cirlces circular cicurling circumscribed sheild shiled shied chevrons shileld shild escucheon shelid chevron ashield shields maly crown tiara harp coat arms crowned crwon crpwn crowns tiarra crowning tiera coats crests insignia crested crest creast

Comments

Yes I have one of theses coins they are very nice as well I paid 40 for one put the magnet on it's ok and the weight is 27 grams - John
The acid test of a good coin deal is to re-sell your coin and see if you do as well or better. Buying and re-selling is an important part of becoming a seasoned collector. It is not fun, but it is an important step. I suggest you take it. After you do it, you will be a better collector and you will be better equipped to make more good deals. If you don't do it, you will never know if you are making good deals or not. Remember, coin dealers usually buy coins for about one-half of what they think they can sell them for. - CoinQuest (Paul)

The Photo of the real coin, not a reproduction, shows some differences from the fake coin. I noted that the Museum Victoria coin has small dots within the garter around the 4 Chinese characters and around the dragon. Also the shape of the dragon claws are different. I would like to know how to make a definitive dissension on the difference between real and fake. Thanks John - gordon
John -- Coin authentication is basically impossible using Internet photos when the fake is a good one. For a coin like this, the only option is to enlist the help of a professional coin dealer or, better yet, a professional authenticator. For professional results, send your coin to PCGS, NGC, ICG, or ANACS. Look them up on the Internet. Do not use other services. - CoinQuest (Paul)

Actually I have some of these, not sure if these are real ones but the authenticity, no scratches and it is still shiny gold 27g coin. I wanna sell it.
If you cannot guarantee that a coin is genuine, it should not be sold. - CoinQuest (Paul)

  

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