Medieval Germany Saxony Angel Groschen (Schreckenberger)  1500 to 1507
Medieval Germany Saxony Angel Groschen (Schreckenberger) 1500 to 1507

Engelgroschen, or angel dime, is the common term used for these neat silver groschen from the old state of Saxony. Ruler names Friedrich Georg Johann date the coin between 1500 and 1507.

Coins like this are difficult to evaluate reliably. Each coin stands on its own merits. If the legends and patterns on the coin are clear and distinct, value goes up. If the coin is bent, stained, spotted, cleaned, or mutilated in any way, the value goes down, sometimes way down. Very approximately, then:

worn: $100 US dollars approximate catalog value
average circulated: $250
well preserved: $500

These are catalog values and must be adjusted to obtain actual buy and sell values. See our Important Terminology page. The coin in our picture would probably sell to a retail customer for $200 to $250.

Coin: 20397 , Genre: Central Europe North South
Requested by: Wm, Mon, 14-Dec-2015 15:26:56 GMT
Answered by: Paul, Tue, 15-Dec-2015 01:31:18 GMT
Requester description: An angel above crossed swords on one side and what looks to be a heraldic shield with a dragon, lion and unsure what the other is on the other side None FREDIRICUS JOHANNES GEOGIUS

I have seen one image of this coin on a website that depicted it as a 1504 AR German States Saxony 3 grossus of the Albertine coinage. However, I think that person couldn't find it either and just made up a name for it.
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Thank you for your assist with identifying this coin. I was able to find some more information on this coin at Of note, is it rare to find coins of this age with doubling of the letters and images? I have found this coin to have several doubling of letters and image
Glad that we could help! It's not uncommon for coins like this to have doubling of the letters. The mint facility, as noted on the page you link, was run by automatic hammers driven by a waterwheel. If a coin was not removed quickly after striking (while the hammers were being raised by the wheel) it was better for the workers to leave it in there for a second *whack*, unless they wanted the coin design imprinted into the flesh of their fingers! - CoinQuest (Chris)




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