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By: pirgah
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3 months ago
Post: 1138
Portugal
Modern
Date: 1974 - Inscription: Obv. REPUBLICA PORTUGUESA 1974 Rev. ANGOLA 5$00 - Questions: Genuine? Condition?

The only thing I want to know is: Are fakes possible? I know that it´s very difficult to judge from a photo, but is it possible to say that it´s a genuine coin? Cleaning?

 
By: Joshua
3 months ago
Post: 1140
Hi there,

People have made 'Fake' or counterfeit coins since the time of the Roman Empire, and most likely even way before, so nearly always a possibility that it could be a fake. However, I am not an expert in authenticating coins.

It doesn't look like it has been cleaned, and should stay that way. Cleaning modern coins ruins its value drastically.
 
By: pirgah
Web reference:
1. [www.ebay.com]
3 months ago
Post: 1149
Hi Joshua,

Please take a look to the link at your left. At Numista that coin was never released for circulation.
 
By: Joshua
Web references:
1. [www.ngccoin.com]
2. [www.coinarchives]
3 months ago
Post: 1152
My Apologies for my mistake. I don't usually use Numista as a reference source often.

Now that I have checked with another source, NGC, the 1974 piece is indeed greatly more valuable.

It may not always go to that price due to the turbulent nature of eBay auctions, but from my second source at Coin Archieves, another one was estimated to be around $300, and sold for $400.

From that, there is greater likelihood of your coin being a fake, but as I said, I am not an expert in authenticating items, so it may be best to wait around for someone with experience in this matter.

I would recommend getting it graded and certified by one of the more prominent grading companies such as NGC or PCGS.
 
By: Paul
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3 months ago
Post: 1157

CoinQuest is working to get Joshua access to a 'Pro' database. Coming soon ...

Until then, these are two coins from the 'Pro' database that show genuine coins which sold at hundreds of US dollars.

Both coins are slabbed. One is stamped, presumably officially, as PROVA, test.

I would never buy one of these unslabbed. Modern counterfeiters are REALLY GOOD at their crookery.

 
By: Paul
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3 months ago
Post: 1159

If you would like to pour over side-by-side comparison images, here is one hot from photoshop. The out-of-focus image of the suspect coin makes comparison chancy.

Modern crooks are very good at getting all pattern details to match. Duplicating weight and surface quality is more difficult. I don't like the surface quality of the suspect coin, and I would certainly never send $493 to an eBay seller unless I had long, very long, positive experience with him.

 
By: pirgah
3 months ago
Post: 1160
Thanks Paul, your comment was very impressive and I learn much from your knowledge.

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