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By: pirgah
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Chinese style letters

Metallic brown

16 days ago
Post: 1264
China
Questions: Identification? Value? Genuine?

This coin seems very strange. As far as I know it´s a 'spade money' from China, although I don´t know which period it belongs.
But there are some problems. I never saw a coin coloured like that and obverse / reverse with same inscriptions. What do you think?

 
By: pirgah
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16 days ago
Post: 1265

Found some more information: During the short reign of the Xin Dynasty, from 9 to 23 AD, Emperor Wang Mang initiated reforms of coinage. Along with the reform came the reintroduction of the bu, as well as huo, cowrie shells, and round coins. His first issue of bu were made from about 10 to 14 AD. In 14 AD, these coins were removed from circulation and replaced with a new spade coin, the Huo Bu (货布; 'Money Spade')as shown in the image attached. Then the Bu Quan (布泉; 'Spade Coin') was minted, which would later obtain the name Nan Qian (''; 'Male Cash'), due to the belief that if a woman wore this on her sash, she would give birth to a boy. Eventually, Wang Mang's unsuccessful reforms caused an uprising, which resulted in his murder in 23 AD.

 
By: pirgah
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16 days ago
Post: 1266

Please excuse me. I have already found that coin. It´s China WangMang Dynasty GILT coins: HUO BU, Dragon and Phoenix, as image attached. Initially I found strange beacause I never saw a coloured 'spade money'.

 
By: pirgah
16 days ago
Post: 1267
A last advice. chancientcoins.com is a fake chinese coins site, according to Norman F. Gorny. All products there are fake, but the coin is real.
 
By: Paul
16 days ago
Post: 1274
Hi pirgah. Like so many other topics in numismatics, I have never studied ‘spade money.’ No doubt, it is a fascinating subject.

About chancientcoins.com, it is a little disturbing that all their coins have the same look and feel. I have used their site in the past to identify particular issues, but I have never purchased from them. Do you have the web reference that claims they are fakesters?
 
By: pirgah
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1. [fakecash.blogspo]
16 days ago
Post: 1275
Please see link to the left. The article is from Tuesday, May 17, 2016.
 
By: Paul
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15 days ago
Post: 1287

Thanks for the ref. This is about the nicest one I can find in my database (for which I have copyright release). It is from Noble Numismatics and we thank them for use of their coin photo.

$175 US dollars in a 2014 auction.

All genuine examples that I can find have a basically blank reverse side. None are gilded. The chancientcoins pieces are fake.

Here is Noble's description:

Noble Numismatics Pty Ltd - Auction 107, Lot 2136
CHINA, Empire, Wang Mang, huo-pu 'The pu currency', spade money (18.84 g), height 60mm, width 24mm, (45 B.C. - 23 A.D.) Good very fine. Ex E.Wodak Collection. Estimate: 150 AUD

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