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By: pirgah
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Coins of the World
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Last month
Post: 930
Japan
Questions: Identification? Value? Genuine? Condition? Problems?

Unfortunately I don´t know nothing about it. My dentist said it´s a japanese coin he found.

 
By: Joshua
Last month
Post: 935
Well, I am also puzzled by this coin, as I am unable to search it up easily, due to the lack of inscriptions.

However, from what I can see, I would say that this coin would be more from the Orient/Asian side of the world, rather then the European or America.

The coin looks to be in reasonably good condition, no severe damage or wear.

Presuming it is real, having some silver content, and not a rare variate, it should be worth around $20-30 onwards. The rough value of these coins, especially of Ancient-Medieval ones usually increases from the 'base price' I had stated previously, for a typical silver coin, if it can be identified, thus giving it some significance or connection to a particular time in history, rather then it being 'some old silver coin for sale'.
 
By: pirgah
Last month
Post: 949
Do you think that an asian coin specialist could help us? Do you know anyone?
 
By: Paul
Web reference:
1. [www.worldofcoins]
Last month
Post: 958
Where do you come up with this stuff? Haha!

There are a lot of really smart numismatists over at World of Coins. I posted you item over there. Someone, I hope, will do an ID. Check the link under Web Reference.
 
By: pirgah
Last month
Post: 960
Thank you so much Paul. If you don´t mind which software did you use to make the coin image so clear? Photoshop?
 
By: pirgah
Last month
Post: 961
Hi Paul, nevermind. I found GIMP
 
By: pirgah
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Last month
Post: 963

Hi Paul, I think I found the 'Where do you come up with this stuff?' coin. Please see images. These were taken from: Stephen Album Rare Coins, Auction 26, lot 900, 15 sept 2016, Japan Ansei 1854-1860, AR. Unfortunately I have to log in to see more information, but seems the same coin I showed before.

 
By: pirgah
Web reference:
1. [www.sarc.auction]
Last month
Post: 964
Found more information: JAPAN: Ansei, 1854-1860, AR mameita gin (8.19g), Cr-8a.4a. JSDA-09-69, so called 'bean' money, 'God of Plenty' type, issued 1859-1865, some original luster, About Unc.'
Not Sold. Start Price: US$ 275. Estimated at: US$ 325 - US$ 475
 
By: Paul
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Last month
Post: 965

Photoshop.

You did good. Searching for coins without inscriptions is always tough, both online and in reference books.

The keywords in this case are 'mameita gin.' The image is a resulting Google search on 'mameita gin.' And there's not even a Wikipedia page about it. Wow!

Using our 'Pro' database, the term produces 99 hits with pictures and auction results. See next post for approximate values.

These are also called 'bean money.'

 
By: Paul
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Last month
Post: 966

Coin values, as always, are all over the map. The 'god of plenty' or 'god of wealth' design is very prevalent. A terrific example is shown in our first picture (with the black background) from Auction World, Ltd. This coin sold for a whopping $1787 US dollars, reaching such a high price due to its superb condition and early date (1710AD).

The second photo (with white background) comes from Stacks Bowers Ponterio where it sold for $155. This example is in good condition also, but it comes from the Tempo era (1837 to 1858AD).

Many of these coins have the 'god of plenty' design on both sides. These appear to be the common, lower value type. The Standard Catalog of World Coins shows values in excess of $1000 (worn) for coins with 'plenty' on one side and era-markings on the other.

 
By: Paul
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Last month
Post: 968

The first photo shows common bean money with uniface 'god of plenty' from the Ansei era (1854 to 1860). This is a $30 coin. Stacks Bowers Ponterio.

The second photo shows rare bean money with Kyoho era 'plenty' on the front and Genbun era reverse with 'bun' characters. This sold for $11000. Heritage.

 
By: Paul
Web references:
1. [charm.ru]
2. [www.coincommunit]
Last month
Post: 969
Good references. See 'Web References' to the left. I have not been able to find one precisely like yours. If you do, please post. Thanks, pirgah.
 
By: pirgah
Last month
Post: 970
I tried very hard but the only one I found was from Stephen Album Rare Coins. Would you think that a better estimate for that coin is US$ 30 - US$ 40 (in bad condition) although the one in better condition from SARC had a start price of US$ 75?
 
By: Paul
Last month
Post: 971
No, I do not agree with your price estimates. You need to find the date of the coin, and whether it is genuine or not. Use google and look at all the images. Go to all the references I supplied. If you can’t find an exact match, it could be a fake. But it could also be quite old, from an early era, and therefore quite valuable. Did you look at the [charm.ru] reference? It could be well worth the effort.
 
By: Paul
Web reference:
1. [coinquest.com]
Last month
Post: 1142
We have constructed a database page for these amazing coins. See Web Reference to the left.

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